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On the Necessity of Parrots in Poetry (JKinsella - see my posts above)

Parrotology:
On the Necessity of Parrots in Poetry


John Kinsella

Originally published as an essay in the Australian Book Review Oct. 2005
available presently via InternetArchive services for exmpl archive.org
http://web.archive.org/web/200609210...la%20essay.htm
or whatever you like via original url
Code:
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~abr/Oct05/Kinsella%20essay.htm
Later on incorporated by the respected author as a chapter in his capital work
"Disclosed Poetics
Beyond Landscape and Lyricism"

which may be acquired for exmpl
from this source
http://www.bokkilden.no/SamboWeb/pro...duktId=2757815
or that
http://www.keenzo.com/showproduct.asp?id=2079191


and another goog link
http://www.parrotforums.com/forums.php
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/pu.../2011/sep/24/1
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Apuleius(2nd century) about such an exotic thing as a parrot

A discourse on parrots delivered in a good company(i believe) and in the good old days of the Second Sophistic(about 2nd century) and briefly reviewed by a contemprary Univ. professor

Vincent Hunink
AN APULEIAN PARROT (on Apul. Fl. 12)
http://www.let.ru.nl/v.hunink/documents/apu_parrot.htm

The subject at issue:"The Florida" by Apuleius
text to download

plain text http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26294.txt.utf8
or any format you like http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26294

Vincent Hunink , professor of classics at Radboud University Nijmegen (NL) ,
http://www.let.ru.nl/V.Hunink/intro_eng.htm
Apuleius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apuleius

And a link to an intersting parrot website
http://www.skye4birds.com
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Apollonian Parrot

G.Petronius Arbiter(1st century) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petronius
wrote not only obscene Satyricon accumulating all filth of the Empire but also beautyful poems which are full of wisdom and kindness
What should we say?Shall we refer to the broadness,duality of human nature ?Or rather its duplicity ?
Be that as it may,this random sample which can be found here
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/...3Atext%3DPoems
is excellent :

Leave thine home, O youth, and seek out alien shores:
a larger range of life is ordained for thee.
Yield not to misfortune; the far-off Danube shall know thee,
the cold North-wind, and the untroubled kingdoms of Canopus,
and the men who gaze on the new birth of Phoebus or upon his setting:
he that disembarks on distant sands, becomes thereby the greater man.

or

O sea-shore and sea more sweet to me than life!
Happy am I who may come at once to the lands I love.
O beauteous day!
In this country long ago I used to rouse the Naiads with my hands' alternate stroke.
Here is the fountain's pool, there the sea washes up its weeds:
here is a sure haven for quiet love.
I have had life in full;
for never can harder fortune take away what was given us in time overpast.

And you are invited to evaluate the others ...


Well,but returning to our beloved ones - the parrots are also here :a parrot living in a

Greek(Apollonian) temple delivers such an oration (with pride and dignity)

My birthplace was India's glowing shore,
where the day returns in brilliance with fiery orb.
Here I was born amid the worship of the gods,
and exchanged my barbaric speech for the Latin tongue.
O healer of Delphi*, now dismiss thy swans**;
here is a voice more worthy to dwell within thy temple.

* Apollo
**His sacred bird
Translation by M.Heseltine
Line breaking is mine in conformity with the divine-sounding Latin original :


Indica purpureo genuit me litore tellus,
candidus accenso qua redit orbe dies.
Hic ego divinos inter generatus honores
mutavi Latio barbara verba sono.
Iam dimitte tuos. Paean o Delphice, cycnos:
dignior haec vox est, quae tua templa colat.

these verses (as well as others)you can find here
http://www.archive.org/details/petronius00petruoft

Thank thee ,Petronius,old fellow,thou wast capable of being lofty & noble
I believe it were Nero and his gang who influenced thee in a bad way
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Next(in turn)conquest of Britain

Feral parrots invade London and environs
Exploding growth of the Rose-Ringed Parakeet population in London and suburbs the latest rough esimation put their number at 30,000 against some 1500 in 1995

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/sc...arakeet&st=cse
http://www.projectparakeet.co.uk/index.html

little winged creatures do what they can and must , struggling to survive
and they are fighting for a just cause
It was not according to their will that they came to be in Albion
if it had not been for the will and whim of irresponsible bird-sellers & some light-minded bird-buyers they would have been meeting their fate,living and dying there in their native land But now it is Great Britain that the Fates ordered them to take (by force if needed) leaving them with no choice but to win or die


"...If the fates had allowed me to live my life under my own
auspices, and attend to my own concerns as I wished,
I should first have cared for the city of Troy and the sweet relics
of my family, Priam’s high roofs would remain, and I’d have
recreated Pergama, with my own hands, for the defeated.
But now it is Italy that Apollo of Grynium,
Italy, that the Lycian oracles, order me to take:
that is my desire, that is my country..."


I personally wish them to win a victory in their fight for for their newly and
unexpectedly obtaind homeland so that they may rest from their tribulations of being captured ,expatriated ,(often)abused,then(having escaped) thrown in unfamiliar & dangerous environment to adapt to or die and now threatened by zealous supervisors of native nature's purity...


"...here is your house, and your house’s gods, for sure
don’t fear the threat of war
the gods’ swollen anger has died away...
That place shall be your city, there’s true rest from your labours..."


and let the cullers and killers be put to shame...
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broad-natured man indeed

here is a good site
http://parrotnation.com/
and a good reading on the same site (about Robert Stroud aka 'The Birdman of Alcatraz' )
http://parrotnation.com/2011/10/16/h...-have-we-come/


and still more on the same theme
Detailed story
http://www.coopertoons.com/merryhist...d/birdman.html
top 10 Alaskans (briefly )
http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...869393,00.html
Birdman in Alcatraz
http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/socia...ogy/stroud.htm
His role in the Battle of Alcatraz
www.alcatrazhistory.com/battle2.htm

yes,broad is human nature

"Yes, man is broad, too broad, indeed. I'd have him narrower. The devil only knows what to make of it! "
F.Dostoyevsky The Brothers Karamazov
http://www.online-literature.com/dos..._karamazov/16/

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Rose-ringed Parakeet as a symbolic creature bearing insigniae of Heaven and Gehenna



THE CONFERENCE OF THE BIRDS
Farid ud-din Attar ( c.1145 - c.1221)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attar_of_Nishapur
Translated by Afham Darbandi and Dick Davis
London: Penguin, 1984 (~1177)
http://sufibooks.info/Sufism/Bird_Pa...eyr)_Attar.pdf

...the birds of the world under the leadership of the Hoopoe gather together to seek a king who is The Simurgh(Phoenix)and among the others the Parrot also are warmly welcomed in such esoteric words of Sufic wisdom

"...And welcome, parrot, perched in paradise!
Your splendid plumage bears a strange device,
A necklace of bright fire about the throat;
Though heaven’s bliss is promised by your coat,
This circle stands for Hades; if you can flee
Like Abraham from Nimrod’s enmity,
Despise these flames -- uninjured will you tread
Through fire if first you cut off Nimrod’s head,
And when the fear of him has died put on
Your gorgeous coat; your collar’s strength has gone! "



here is this dualistic Parrot of the poem with above mentioned " green coat " of promised Paradise and "the necklace of bright fire " as an ominous sign of Hades



...but The birds are not enthusiastic to say the least about searching a king but rather providing rationales for their unwillingness and making different excuses
the Parrot particularly , the victim of her beauty , deplores her long imprisonment in a cage , the cruelty of men and expresses her inclination for searching a compensation in the form of immortality which she believes could be obtained through finding the stream of immortality guarded by Khezr -
a mysterious personage , the Hidden Prophet, the Green Man, King of Hyperborea, sagaciuos servant of Moses , clad in green ,the last especially encouraging the Parrot as a good omen and a fact of profound significance ...



The Parrot’s excuse

"The pretty parrot was the next to speak,
Clothed all in green, with sugar in her beak,
And round her neck a circle of pure gold.
Even the falcon cannot boast so bold
A loveliness -- earth's variegated green
Is but the image of her feathers’ sheen,
And when she talks the fascinating sound
Seems sweet as costly sugar finely ground;
She trilled: “I have been caged by heartless men,
But my desire is to be free again;
If I could reassert my liberty
I’d find the stream of immortality
Guarded by Khezr -- his cloak is green like mine,
And this shared colour is an open sign
I am his equal or equivalent.
Only the stream Khezr watches could content
My thirsting soul -- I have no wish to seek
This Simorgh’s throne of which you love to speak.”


the Nightingale also deserves attention , he is in love with the Rose (our best regards to Mr O.Wilde) ,fully content and seeks after nothing in the world except his passion and the glorification of her

The nightingale’s excuse

"The nightingale made his excuses first.
His pleading notes described the lover’s thirst,
And through the crowd hushed silence spread as he
Descanted on love’s scope and mystery.
“The secrets of all love are known to me,”
He crooned. “Throughout the darkest night my song
Resounds, and to my retinue belong
The sweet notes of the melancholy lute,
The plaintive wailing of the love-sick flute;
When love speaks in the soul my voice replies
In accents plangent as the ocean’s sighs.
The man who hears this song spurns reason’s rule;
Grey wisdom is content to be love’s fool.
My love is for the rose; I bow to her;
From her dear presence I could never stir.
If she should disappear the nightingale
Would lose his reason and his song would fail,
And though my grief is one that no bird knows,
One being understands my heart -- the rose.
I am so drowned in love that I can find
No thought of my existence in my mind.
Her worship is sufficient life for me;
The quest for her is my reality
(And nightingales are not robust or strong;
The path to find the Simorgh is too long).
My love is here; the journey you propose
Cannot beguile me from my life -- the rose.
It is for me she flowers; what greater bliss
Could life provide me -- anywhere -- than this?
Her buds are mine; she blossoms in my sight --
How could I leave her for a single night?”




The Nightigale and theRose


PS :
1. in all places autowildcarded on the site original expression *he11* was replced with synonymous substitution 'Hades' and 'Gehenna' ...I believe forgivable sinn (if any )
2. Tere is also translation by Edward FitzGerald (1809-1883) -which is both
loose and obscured asfor me and fragmentary
you can find it for exmpl here
http://allpoetry.com/Edward_FitzGerald
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GrrlScientist Blog on TheGuardian

What my parrot does when I go out...
What does your pet parrot do all day when you're at work? A hidden camera video report reveals all...



and one more .... and the more instructive one
Jumping genes capture deep relationships between parrots and songbirds




I believe we safely may trust to this banner
And be sure it will lead us aright ...
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till Death do us part ...



In the Name of God, I, &N., take you, &N., to be my
(wife) (husband), to have and to hold from this day wife) (husband), to have
and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for
richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to
cherish,
till death do us part
, according to God's holy
ordinance; and thereto I (plight) (give) thee my troth.

Book of Common Prayer
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http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/
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11 animals that mate for life...

11 animals that mate for life...and angry (liberal - ?) comments

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/ani...e/old-faithful
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Articles on Parrots Behaviour

Great articles on parrots covering a broad range of subjects and esp behavioral issues with parrots

World Parrot Trust - parrots.org - a bottomless sea of info
http://www.parrots.org/index.php/allaboutparrots/

parrothouse.com - esp amazons , cockatoos , Greys...and not only
http://www.parrothouse.com/behavior.html
both profound and interesting esp I like Cockatoo by Sam Foster...
typical Male Cockatoo as a Super Male...Ah ? think twice before
ttreating this jungle knight as a companion pet !!!
http://www.parrothouse.com/sf10.html
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone

Parrots Christmas Wishes



from trainedparrot.com
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Humans-Parrots Fundamental Affinity

The capacity for auditory-motor entrainment (moving in time with an auditory pulse )or to put it simply dancing is unique to humans and ... parrots
even other higher primates are devoid of this capacity

Researches :

Adena Schachner (Harvard Univ )
http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~amschach/index.html
her researh ( on which page also links to the videomaterial & articles to download in PDF format - all is very interesting )
http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~amschach/research.html

further(popular) reading :

Wikipedia entry on Snowball (born c. 1996) , a male Eleonora Cockatoo, noted as being the first non-human animal conclusively demonstrated to be capable of beat induction— perceiving music and synchronizing his body movements to the beat (i.e., dancing)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball

FoxNews.com
Dancing Parrot on YouTube Leads to Scientific Theory
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518494,00.html

LiveScience.com
These Birds Can Dance!
http://www.livescience.com/7759-birds-dance.html

TheEconomist
Everybody knows that birds sing. But it appears that some can dance, too.
http://www.economist.com/node/13570066

ScienceDaily.com
Some Vocal-Mimicking Animals, Particularly Parrots, Can Move To A Musical Beat
http://feeds.sciencedaily.com/~r/sci...0430121936.htm

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I am totally amazed ( to say the least )

I am totally amazed with contents of this website
Here is the team of birdtricks.com . I love them and their work


from their 'about us' page
http://www.birdtricks.com/about-us.html
" ...We’ve created a website providing information and training tips for all pet parrots including how to stop screaming, stop biting, teach your parrot how to talk and train your bird to do tricks (plus much more!) to help enhance their lives in captivity by creating a stimulating environment that also creates a bond between companion parrot and person..."


some random samples

you will be infinitely astonished

How to Stop Parrots from biting
( MyBirdTips.com is an alias for birdtricks.com )
http://youtu.be/xM_LNoNqlZc

Answer for all parrot biting screaming & trick training
http://youtu.be/-BCHLjPXf6M

And yes free flying also
http://youtu.be/P0P4S7pLr2Y

http://youtu.be/X-yM400tqRc


http://youtu.be/dpjOtGKkBiE


visit this amazing website
http://www.birdtricks.com/
and you will be wildly enthusiastical proselyte as I myself have become
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you & me & the sun

Sir Sacheverell Sitwell, 6th Baronet (1897 – 1988)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacheverell_Sitwell


Version as it presented at archive.org
from "the People's Palace",1918 with some erratae and imperfections
(various formats to download)
http://www.archive.org/details/peoplespalace00sitw

In The Egoist magazine
(you can download as pdf)
http://dl.lib.brown.edu/mjp/render.p...08747907259377

this is from The Egoist journal

"PSITTACUS EOIS IMITATRIX ALES AB INDIS"
Ovid.

THE Parrot's voice snaps out—
No good to contradict—
What he says he'll say again :
Dry facts, dry biscuits.

His voice, and vivid colours
Of his breast and wings
Are immemorably old ;
Old Dowagers dressed in crimped satin,
Boxed in their rooms,
Specimens beneath a glass
Inviolate—and never changing,
Their memory of emotions dead;
The ardour of their summers
Sprayed like camphor
On their silken parasols
Intissued in a cupboard.

Reflective, but with never a new thought
The parrot sways upon his ivory perch—
Then gravely turns a somersault
Through rings nailed to the roof—
Much as the sun performs his antics
As he climbs the aerial bridge
We only see
Through crystal prisms of a falling rain.

March 1st, 1918.
SACHEVERELL SITWELL

Some remarks made by me an unworthy

His voice, and vivid colours
Of his breast and wings
Are immemorably old


And Indeed , at times so senile and old-fashioned do look our feathered friends , don't they ? No matter what biological age and activity ...poor creatures.

Reflection without a new thought - a parrot captive in his cage parallels us, the captives of the spiritual cave we can see nothing but distorted reflections on the wall surrounding our imprisoned mind ,
with our weak flesh-and-blood brain hiding in the miserable asylum of a skull,our spirit being trapped behind rigid concepts of fallible understanding,and the perception being dull and the whole body subject to putrefaction...

“...and they see only their own shadows, or the shadows of one another, which the fire throws on the opposite wall of the cave...”

or using a different set of images

Old Dowagers dressed in crimped satin,
Boxed in their rooms,
Specimens beneath a glass
Inviolate—and never changing,
Their memory of emotions dead;
The ardour of their summers
Sprayed like camphor
On their silken parasols
Intissued in a cupboard.


The senility of body-the imbecility of thought-the spiritual decomposition long before the biological
and then the actual death...so it goes and will go

The parrot sways upon his ivory perch—
Then gravely turns a somersault
Through rings nailed to the roof—
Much as the sun performs his antics
As he climbs the aerial bridge


Parrot's somersaults and a routine circling of the sun...and the wind...and the rivers.... and all things...What has been will be again,what has been done will be done again;there is nothing new under the sun,yes?
“...The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full: unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
All things are full of labor; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun...”


Therefore thou shalt not marvel saying in thy heart : “a parrot in a cage : what is all the fuss about?
Man , the parrot is thee
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