07020 Forums  

Go Back   07020 Forums > Of Interest > Parrots

Parrots Our green feathered friends. parrots.07020.com

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-26-2011, 10:37 AM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Reflections

my first post and equally the first thread
I will be laconical :
1.my greetings and best wishes to the distant and greatly respected community
2.a link to a good poet and his masterpiece directly concerned with the heroes of this(sub)forum - our beloved parakeets
So , Gerry LaFemina
"Coda: the Parakeets of Brooklyn" from "The Parakeets of Brooklyn"


http://www.italianamericanwriters.co...ina.html#poem3
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-26-2011, 11:57 AM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Come and See

"Save the Trafalgar Square Pigeons"

A great deal of information for contemplation and making decision

http://www.savethepigeons.org/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-01-2011, 12:55 PM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Endangered Australian parrots

Night Parrots

As they seen by BBC
BBC about Night Parrot (Australia) (or spinifex parrot, porcupine parrot, Pezoporus Occidentalis)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildfact...les/3076.shtml

and WIKI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Parrot

and reflected in the creative imagination of the renowned Australian poet John Kinsella
Night Parrots - The Poem
http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poet...arrots-0400014
Night Parrots - AllTheBook
http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poem...arrots-0400000

Poetical Collections of JKinsella
http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/kinsella-john

about JKinsella
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kinsella_%28poet%29
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-02-2011, 10:33 PM
Mike's Avatar
Mike Mike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cliffside Park, NJ, USA
Posts: 6,266
Mike is on a distinguished road
Re: Reflections

Cool.

Thanks
__________________
If you are aware of waste or mismanagement at any level of New Jersey
government, the NJ State Comptroller wants to hear from you.
comptrollertips@osc.state.nj.usState of New Jersey
Office of the State Comptroller
PO Box 024
Trenton, NJ 08625
Att: Comptroller Tips
All communication will remain confidential!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-07-2011, 01:38 AM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Re: Reflections

Thanks to you also , dear Mike
And I invite you to advance in our exploration of the Australian poesy yet a little further

Robert Adamson - an Australian poet
His site -
http://www.robertadamson.com/
His bio and poetical books -
http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/adamson-robert/

And that is why he is highly relevant and welcome here

Parrot Poem (from Selected Poems 1970 - 1980) - a parrot on the bject/object crossroad of the poet's (ap)perception - exquisite and pleasant piece of poetry
http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poet...t-poem-0628084

The Night Parrots (from The Golden Bird) - as the title suggests the content will inevitably be far from being amusing - in fact this poem is an integral part of the book as a whole - read it and enjoy its gloomy perfection
http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poet...arrots-0711069

And again John Kinsella
Parrot Deaths: Rites of Passage (from book : Peripheral Light )
http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poet...assage-0243028

Terrible fatum befell the parrots in Australia : fermented fruits containing alcohol
Read this horrible story
http://www.australiangeographic.com....g-from-sky.htm


But For some persons there is a good opportunity for the humorous etymological researches mixed with showing their teeth ... and bad taste (in my opinion)
The links beneath may be found offensive - I personally consider writngs of Ms Mansell as distasteful

http://bdb.co.za/shackle//articles/tipsy_parrots.htm
Chris Mansell Definition Poem ...
Chris Mansell Definition Poem ...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-23-2011, 11:31 AM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
"Flaubert's Parrot" by J.P.Barnes , 1984

researches on the enigmatical double_life of our beloved winged ones in the material and mental universes continuation

In the beginning was naturally Gustave Flaubert
about him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Flaubert
his work here being touched on: "Three Tales" (1877 , Trois contes )
about this work :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Tales_%28Flaubert%29

Of interest here is one of these stories - "A Simple Heart" : the protagonist , a good_hearted poor woman Felicite and her beloved parrot LouLou
by the way , the story originally was entitled "The Parrot"

Such is the ending :

"Her lips smiled. The beats of her heart
grew fainter and fainter, and vaguer, like a fountain giving out,
like an echo dying away;--and when she exhaled her last breath,
she thought she saw in the half-opened heavens a gigantic parrot
hovering above her head."

download on gutenberg.0rg
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/10458




J.P.Barnes is the contemporary English Writer , who wrote "breakthrough" novel "Flaubert's Parrot"( David Cohen Prize for Literature 2011 )
about the author:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Barnes
his site :
julianbarnes.com

download this excellent novel here :
http://www.kiwitan.com/blog/books/Ba...s%20Parrot.doc

sample of the author's style
"...In one cardinal way, of course, Félicité is the complete opposite of Flaubert: she is virtually inarticulate. But you could argue that this is where Loulou comes in. The parrot, the articulate beast, a rare creature that makes human sounds. Not for nothing does Félicité confuse Loulou with the Holy Ghost, the giver of tongues.

Félicité + Loulou = Flaubert? Not exactly; but you could claim that he is present in both of them. Félicité encloses his character; Loulou encloses his voice. You could say that the parrot, representing clever vocalisation without much brain power, was Pure Word. If you were a French academic, you might say that he was un symbole de Logos. Being English, I hasten back to the corporeal: to that svelte, perky creature I had seen at the Hôtel-Dieu. I imagined Loulou sitting on the other side of Flaubert's desk and staring back at him like some taunting reflection from a funfair mirror. No wonder three weeks of its parodic presence caused irritation. Is the writer much more than a sophisticated parrot ?.... etc "

and about the novel :
On the authors site (a bit)
http://www.julianbarnes.com/bib/fp.html

And in TheGuardian the author himself about creation of the novel
"When Flaubert took wing"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2005...n.julianbarnes

An excerpt :
"Reviews were generally favourable; but my nerves were finally calmed by the first letter I got from someone not professionally (or amicably) involved with the book. It came not from a university lecturer in French literature, but from a 15-year-old schoolgirl working in her father's bookshop in Guildford. She had never read a word of Flaubert, but had picked up my novel and raced through it, finding hindrance in neither the unfamiliar subject matter nor the peculiar structure. So, perhaps, I thought, the book wouldn't be condemned to a coterie readership; perhaps, after all, my Parrot might fly."

and also J.P.Barnes in conversation (and about "Flauberts Parrot" also)
http://www.cercles.com/n4/barnes.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-28-2011, 12:40 PM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Parrots, Poets and Philosophers (sic ! )

JOHN GILMORE

"Parrots, Poets and Philosophers:

Language and Empire in the Eighteenth Century"


Download pdf-formated doc here :
http://arts.brunel.ac.uk/gate/entert...s/gillmore.pdf

I know nothing about the author ...
Concerning the work - as for me- too much politics , too much of noble indignation at our cursed colonial past ...
Well , but about parrots and/in culture(esp poesy) - a lot of interesting information - from antiquity up to ... hm ...lets say A.Pope
So , Download , dear friends, and enjoy
and instead of waving you goodby - a link to a pretty place occupied by the
bright person GrrlScientist at the famous The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/pu...ed-equilibrium
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-03-2011, 04:42 PM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Re: Parrots, Poets and Philosophers (sic ! )

Quote:
Originally Posted by alienus99 View Post
<...>
<...>I know nothing about the author <...>
He is Professor at the University of Warwick
and his profile's info
Code:
 http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/english/people/permanentacademicstaffstaff3/gilmoredrjohn/
explains many of the peculiarities of his treating the subject and of his views as a researcher
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-10-2011, 11:07 AM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Parrots in impressionist (and not only impressionist ) painting

Mona Hadler
"Manet's Woman With a Parrot of l866."
Metropolitan Museum Journal VII: 115-22. 1973


Download link in pdf format (size < 2 mb )
http://www.metmuseum.org/publication...f.bannered.pdf

quality of illustrations in this pdf doc are naturally poor so you are invited to turn
to the other sources on the net for the pics of quality
for example "Woman with a Parrot" , the main subject of the doc ,
may be found here - (a direct link , high rez - 4 Mb )
Code:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/%C3%89douard_Manet_-_Young_Lady_in_1866_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
or indirect link , gallery of E.Manet on the WIKi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89douard_Manet

Links to some blog with selection of Ladies with Parrots' paintings
Low rez pics
http://irushonok.livejournal.com/74535.html
http://irushonok.livejournal.com/212405.html

and so on , good luck

The author
Mona Hadler is Professor at Brooklyn College , Dep of Art
http://www.brooklyn.cuny.edu/pub/Fac...sp?faculty=258
http://web.gc.cuny.edu/dept/arthi/faculty/hadler.html


and a link at parting :
a parrot on an early medieval silver plaque discovered in South Moravia (Czech Rep.)
and dated in 9th century (the dead of Dark Ages ,equally scientifically opaque regarding both the parrots and their friends from among the human beings )
mille pardons, written mainly in Czech ,
but neverthelesss containing following items in English : Abstract , Summary and Notes to illustrations which are very intersting and deserving attention
the Original doc in pdf format may be easily (size = 3,2 mb )downloaded here
http://www.nm.cz/download/pm/zoo/mli...StareMesto.pdf
The author is Jiri Mlikovsky ,CSc(Candidatus Scientiarum) = PhD ,
Curator of Ornithology at the National Museum in Prague, dep. of Zoology
about the author ( in Czech only , pardon )
http://www.nm.cz/prirodovedecke-muze...vsky-publx.php
http://www.nm.cz/cv/mlikovsky.php
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-15-2011, 08:15 PM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Poet's visiting a parrot sanctuary

At the Parrot Sanctuary

by Esther Morgan

http://www.poetryarchive.org/poetrya...o?poemId=13447
To view readable content Onthis page You must have JavaScript enabled
and ADOBE Shock Wave installed Which is freely downloadable here
http://get.adobe.com/shockwave/

or here you can get the text without any trouble
http://www.versedaily.org/2005/parrotsanctuary.shtml

home page of the Poet
http://www.esthermorgan.net/
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-15-2011, 10:43 PM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Re: Reflections

All poems are excellent esp "The Human Hand"
I have had no info about Anne Kenyon yet

a user Alison posted on the parrotforums.c0m his/her poem "A Birds Life"
http://www.parrotforums.com/general-...t.html#post243

"A Birds Life
I sat in a cage in a busy pet store.
Whose employees saw me as just one more chore.
I was bought by a family and brought to their home.
They played with me daily I was never alone.
Then came the baby and mommy's too tired.
No time for the birdy, and daddy got fired.
For a time I can handle it for it couldn't last?
Then out of the blue came a traumatic blast.
I was torn from my home, I was given away.
Take care of the birdy was all they could say.
My new home is scary, in time I'd adjust.
But it didn't last long enough, my hopes were a bust.
And so I was sold to someone with kids.
But they left for college, now I'm up for bids.
I had new owners, who were husband and wife.
They yell and they scream and I fear for my life.
Then one day it happened, the mean one hit me.
This is exactly how I feared things would be.
I tried to be quiet and I tried to be good.
I hoped they would treat me the way that they should.
No longer that trusting, I'm afraid can't you see.
I bit into the hand of the one who hurt me.
Another new place, where I just want to die.
They want me to breed, but why should I try.
This is my life, I'm a throwaway bird.
Our numbers are many as I'm sure you have heard.
I'd tell you my name, but thats way in the past.
It's been 20 long years since I heard it last.
I'm at the end of my life, too young you may say.
But my journey was hard, I'm too broken to stay.

I wrote this poem in loving memory of all the birds who have lived and died the life of a throwaway bird. Alison "
And later on Alison adds:
"You can post it where ever you would like to. I have had it published a few times, but I never gave anyone exclusive rights or anything. I think people need to read these types of poems, sometimes just to wake them up to the suffering that so many birds endure"

A selection of poems from around the world
http://www.birdbytes.com/poems.html
http://www.theparrotsocietyuk.org/in...rot_Poetry/113

And from Australia naturally
from the book "Birds"
http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poem.../birds-0476000
Judith Wright (1915 - 2000)
about http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/wright-judith
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-16-2011, 08:44 AM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Politically involved parrots

A Great Parrot Poem by Ernesto Cardenal
About
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_t...Cardenal_about
http://www.answers.com/topic/ernesto-cardenal
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...nesto_cardenal


Ernesto Cardenal
(1925- )
by Alan West-Durán, Northeastern University
Published in Latin American Writers-Supplement I, Edited By Carlos Solé, Klaus Muller-Bergh, Scribners and Sons, NY, 2002, pp. 149-166.
downloadable in doc format
http://web.mac.com/alanwestduran/iWe...al%20Essay.doc

Poem

My friend Michel is an army officer
in Somoto up near the Honduran border,
and he told me he had found some contraband parrots
waiting to be smuggled to the United States
to learn to speak English there.

There were 186 parrots
with 47 already dead in their cages.
He drove them back where they’d been taken from
and as the lorry approached a place known as The Plains
near the mountains which were these parrots’ home
(behind those plains the mountains stand up huge)
the parrots got excited, started beating their wings
and shoving against their cage-sides.

When the cages were let open
they all shot out like an arrow shower
straight for their mountains.

The Revolution did the same for us I think:
It freed us from the cages
where they trapped us to talk English,
it gave us back the country
from which we were uprooted,
their green mountains restored to the parrots
by parrot-green comrades.

But there were 47 that died.

NYDailyNews
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...armen-boullosa
theWashingtonPost
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...0EH_story.html

and so on - enough is enough
__________________
"You have shown me a strange image, and they are strange prisoners.
Like ourselves, I replied; and they see only their own shadows"
Republic 07

Me in few words "Reflective, but with never a new thought..."

Ad Maiorem Psittacorum Gloriam

Last edited by alienus99; 09-16-2011 at 08:55 AM.. Reason: spelling , oh my !
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-17-2011, 01:24 PM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
going slightly off topic for E.Cardenal sake (see posts above)



Prayer for Marilyn Monroe



HereIsTheLink

by Ernesto Cardenal
Translated from the Spanish
by Jonathan Cohen

E.Cardenal says : “I was studying for the priesthood in a seminary in Colombia and, during a theology class, we got the news of Marilyn Monroe’s death. That’s when I wrote the poem,”
NYDailyNews
http://www.nydailynews.com/latino/20..._cardenal.html
__________________
"You have shown me a strange image, and they are strange prisoners.
Like ourselves, I replied; and they see only their own shadows"
Republic 07

Me in few words "Reflective, but with never a new thought..."

Ad Maiorem Psittacorum Gloriam
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-18-2011, 11:06 AM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Duval's birds by Conrad Aiken

The parrot, screeching, flew out into the darkness,
Circled three times above the upturned faces
With a great whir of brilliant outspread wings,
And then returned to stagger on her finger.
She bowed and smiled, eliciting applause....
The property man hated her dirty birds.
But it had taken years--yes, years--to train them,
To shoulder flags, strike bells by tweaking strings,
Or climb sedately little flights of stairs.
When they were stubborn, she tapped them with a wand,****
And her eyes glittered a little under the eyebrows.
The red one flapped and flapped on a swinging wire;
The little white ones winked round yellow eyes.

i like it very much dont know why...
**** - a hint at Plinius' absurd message ?
With or without Plinius' absurdity i like these verses
__________________
"You have shown me a strange image, and they are strange prisoners.
Like ourselves, I replied; and they see only their own shadows"
Republic 07

Me in few words "Reflective, but with never a new thought..."

Ad Maiorem Psittacorum Gloriam

Last edited by alienus99; 09-18-2011 at 11:30 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-24-2011, 10:23 AM
alienus99's Avatar
alienus99 alienus99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: aDistantRegion-StiflingPeripheryOfBabelTheGreat
Posts: 50
alienus99 is on a distinguished road
Our Man In the Heart of Darkness

Olympiodorus of Thebes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiodorus_of_Thebes
, a historical writer,poet,philosopher,alchemist etc - witness of submerging
the (western)civilization into the Age of Darkness
was also "a parrot guy" : according to the Evidence of Photius in BIBLIOTHECA OR MYRIOBIBLON
((Olympiodorus' influence was great but his originals have been lost and we have had his works only in their developing(evolution/devolution or at least retelling) in other authors))
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/ph...iotheca.htm#80

"He also tells of a parrot,
with which he himself lived twenty years,
which mimicked nearly all the acts of a human being.
it used to dance and sing, call people by their names and the like."

and a modern scholar Fletcher
http://www.camws.org/CJ/fletcher.pdf
says such a way:
"Olympiodorus is often described by modern scholars as something
of an eccentric. This is due in part to his unusual style of writing history,
in part to his atypical political views, and also because he kept a
pet parrot as a traveling companion for 20 years."

and another (JFMathews) says alike
http://www.jstor.org/pss/299415
"Olympiodorus with his parrot even cuts ,to modern eyes , an eccentrically buccaneering figure"

And a link at parting

TheTelegraph : A US fireman who lost his power of speech in a traffic accident has been taught to speak again by parrots.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...eak-again.html
__________________
"You have shown me a strange image, and they are strange prisoners.
Like ourselves, I replied; and they see only their own shadows"
Republic 07

Me in few words "Reflective, but with never a new thought..."

Ad Maiorem Psittacorum Gloriam
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reflections of Shad Fishermen joeselena General Discussion 0 05-25-2009 06:29 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 2
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 07020.com - All rights reserved