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Old 10-02-2012, 08:42 PM
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Re: Le Jardin - NJ DEP violations

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A/K/A the lowest responsible bidder.
"Responsible" how do they define "Responsible"?
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:24 PM
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Re: Le Jardin - NJ DEP violations

Masters of distraction. Last year there were rumors that the Veterans Field woould be lost forever. There was going to be a new DPW garage and high-rise built on that land. All Distraction.

I read tree articles which state the cost of the Veterans Field cleanup at $7.2 Million, $7.7 Million and $9.7 Million. The Mayor and Council approved resolution 2012-192 on 6/18/12 for the bid which was:

Base bid: $6,956,575.88
Aleternate "A": $112,500.00
Total Bid Award: $7,069,075.88

But everyone rightfully demanded the 100 year old Oak Tree be saved. They went even further by saving all the Oak trees, but said the cost of the new barrier wall would be extra. What is a barrier wall, is it the same as a landscaping wall? If the bid included the cost of cutting down all the Oak Trees as well as removing the roots, shouldn't there be a credit for that?

They said the plan included carefully removing all the memorial trees, balling them up, constructing special crates to temporarily store them, move them to another area of the property and have a nursery care for the trees until the renovation was complete, and then replant them. The day after the bid was awared, they said they were going to cut down the trees and replace them because there was no guarantee they would survive. Shouldn't there be a credit for that?

They recently decided to merge the new water sprinkler building and new bathroom into on structure, instead of two structures. Isn't it cheaper to build 1 structure instead of 2? Shouldn't there be a credit for that?

They originally were going to save money by not replacing the dugouts at the little league field. They were going to remove the fill from the field and then cap, building a wall around the little league field making it a different grade level then the rest of the field. Now the developer is rebuilding the dugouts as a donation. Is the rest of the work being done? Shouldn't there be a credit for that?

It seems that everyone is now focused on saving the Old borough hall, and there is no eye on Veteran's Field. Where are all the credits????????? Just remember that all this is happening in broad daylight, right in front of our eyes.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:59 PM
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Re: Le Jardin - NJ DEP violations

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It seems that everyone is now focused on saving the Old borough hall, and there is no eye on Veteran's Field. Where are all the credits????????? Just remember that all this is happening in broad daylight, right in front of our eyes.
Zaida, no one is focused on saving Borough Hall. All we do is read between the lines, combine it with long experience in EW, and draw conclusions.

Regarding the ballfield, which is near and dear to me because I lived across the street from it for nine years and still own that apartment, there should be change orders passed by resolution. I don't recall coming across any but would have to go back and look at the meeting agendas. Given that the town operates as a Daibes subsidiary, it's unlikely they'll ask their master for the change. Might be worth sharing your concerns with the state Comptroller, whose contact information is below. The Comptroller is very familiar with the EW government.

The oak trees were probably saved because the guys at the American Legion squalled to a couple of councilmen. I know there was unhappiness after the original plan was announced.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:50 PM
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Re: Veterans Field Update

long line of dump trucks at Veterans's Field today. River Road was covered in dirt from start to finish.

Sure hope that wasn't contaminated dirt. I washed my car just in case, fearing the paint might melt off.

All this happening right in front of our eyes.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:03 PM
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Re: Le Jardin - NJ DEP violations

This post and the last 2 posts should have been under the thread Veterans Field.

October 1, 2012 council meeting. Mary and Valory came prepared and ready to ask very important questions of TERMS Environmental.

In a past council meeting, Mary asked how much it would cost just to remove the contaminated soil from Veteran's Field. The young lady from Neglia Engineering stated it would cost $3.6 Million.

Neglia and TERMS estimated that there would be approximately 1,000 cubic yards of contaminted soil to be removed from the site, a relatively small amount. Many of us asked that the Field remedition be done in 2 phases, 1 the remediation of the contaminted soil, and 2 the renovations and upgrades, potentially savings hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars.

Now we find out that there were 26 loads of contaminated dirt removed from the site, and much of the contaminated dirt would be re-used on the field to raise the elevation of the field.

26 truckloads of dirt @ 13 cu ft per truck = 338 total cubic yards

If the bid included the disposal of an estimated 1,000 cubic yards of dirt, and there was only 338 cubic yards disposed, the remaining 662 cubic yards remained on the field and was used as fill. There should also be a credit for the difference of contaminated dirt that was not disposed.

No mention of any fill coming from the Cliffside Park Town Center in Cliffside, or from the construction site at 440 River Road in Edgewater????????????

Nice to know the certified fill is coming from Route 3 in CLifton. *%$#%
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:19 PM
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Re: Veterans Field Update

Here are some documents off the borough web site that relate to this thread. Specifically, design changes and clean fill testing.
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File Type: pdf Design Changes.pdf (154.8 KB, 147 views)
File Type: pdf 100312 Vets Field Cert Clean Fill I.pdf (4.09 MB, 150 views)
File Type: pdf 100312 Vets Field Cert Clean Fill II.pdf (3.88 MB, 399 views)
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:59 PM
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Re: Veterans Field Update

This article pertains to the same project:

http://www.northjersey.com/lyndhurst....html?page=all

It sucks that my son played on that field his entire childhood. It sucks that he and many children who also played there for the last three decades are now suffering from environmentally induced diseases from cancer to diabetes to headaches to allergies since the dumping that originally was done in the eighties.

And now a new generation of children will be subject to more pollution including the Mayor's and and a Councilman's. I guess they don't mind playing Russian Roulette with their own prodigy's health and wellness.

The only thing we know is they have plausible deniability since the town is so polluted with so many different pollutants its hard to determine exactly what causes what.

Good luck to the future children who will play-touch-breath (and some may ingest) the dirt at the ballfield. I guess this is just step one in coming to the conclusion that no dirt is clean and then they will put forward that they have to re-do the field with artificial turf.

You see they keep setting up the next boondoggle and we keep paying for it, so why wouldn't they.

Veteran's field = Money pit
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Re: Veterans Field Update

VETERANS FIELD INQUIRY

The following documents are needed to determine how much the town is owed for a refund:

1. NEGLIA bid package for Veterans Field.
2. Questions from bidders, answers to bidders.
3. Neglia detailed line-item estimate of $9.7 Million for the project.

This will be a time when the residents hold their town accountable.

Hopefully someone can help locate these documents.
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:59 PM
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Re: Veterans Field Update

Why don't you OPRA them?
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:12 PM
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Re: Veterans Field Update

Veterans Field Guarantees:

"He's looking to give us a reasonable job, a great, a more than reasonable job, for a reasonable price"

"Good clean soil"

"State of the art facility"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-JZMOfMyzM
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Re: Veterans Field Update

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Veterans Field Guarantees:

"He's looking to give us a reasonable job, a great, a more than reasonable job, for a reasonable price"

"Good clean soil"

"State of the art facility"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-JZMOfMyzM
The Channel 1 News Commentator stated, "that Veterans Field was closed after chemicals traced back to old industrial plants that once called the site home were found".

I lived in Edgewater my entire adult life, read various books on Edgewater's history and spoke to life long residents of Edgewater and never once did I read or hear that an industrial plant occupied Veterans Field.

Does anyone know if any and what industrial plants occupied Veterans Field?
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:49 AM
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Re: Veterans Field Update

I believe the "site" the correspondent was referring to was Edgewater. There is no disputing the fact that contaimination material was dumped in the park. Extensive documentation and photos exists verifing this and the fact that Edgewater's elected leaders at that time, not only knew about the dumping, but one also encouraged it.
Now here is the part of this story I personally find most egregious.
In 2011-2012, the mayor and council presented a plan to "remediate" Veteran's Park, their "professionals" Plan was nebulous. Additionally, their professionals had no credentials in enviornmental science, with the exception of a BA in geology. When information was presented and questions were asked by the public, regarding the reuse of contaimated soil in our park, our elected leaders buried their heads in the sand. A certain council men became angry, and began a circluar conversation attempting to quell any discussion. Once again, we are at the mercy of a council that has it's priorities in the wrong place.
Here are some things that have me very concerned for the health of our residents.
The firm hired to remediate Veteran's Park does not have any enviromental science creditentials, however, they are licensed by the State to oversee projects, thanks to the deregulations of the DEP.
The remediation plan was nebulous, too many inconsistencies, too many unanswered questions.
The company performing the remediation has no experience remediating contaminated sites.
I believe Edgewater's former mayor, has been acting as a representive for either the borough's engineer or the firm hired to perform the remediation, or both, not sure, but I would love some answers.
One plus one, has not been equaling two.......
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The Channel 1 News Commentator stated, "that Veterans Field was closed after chemicals traced back to old industrial plants that once called the site home were found".
I assume they confused it with Quanta.
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Re: Veterans Field Update

Veterans Field

Observation A: The contractor stated that he would do whatever is required to make Veterans Field a state of the art facility.

Observation B: There have been changes to the current plan which merit a deduction from the amount owed to the contractor.

Observation C: There were items which were considered and removed from the final plan, which would have made Veterans Field a state of the art facility.

Observation D: The contractor should include the following at no additional charge:

Field Lighting
Stage
Volleyball Court
Handball Court
Gazeebo
Clock Tower
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Love the gazeebo and clock tower!
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